I MAY AS WELL HIT IT HEAD ON
THERE ARE ARGUEMENTS THAT WILL NEVER BE SOLVED... POLITICS, RELIGION, DOG FOOD AND dog BREEDING.
A CP SENT ME THIS(the italics)
i feel very strongly about this. i hope you have another option other than walter.
this is text from a discussion on color genetics of great danes with jp yousha (aka chromadane) on the great dane coat color facebook group page. ( I KNOW JP-- WE HAAVE TALKED-- NICE PERSON...-- BUT WE ARE JUST TOTALLY DIFFERENT WORLDS.)
THIS GOES ON FOR MANY PAGES OF BIG WORDS AND STATISTICS... IN WHICH THERE IS A COMMENT
the breeding of pi's will eventually result in the loss of correctly marked puppies,
the breeding of pi's will eventually result in the loss of correctly marked puppies,
WHAT'S CORRECT?????? I THINK THE LOSS OF SHOWABLE PUPS PER THE AKC STANDARD IS AT THE BASE OF TEH OPINION.... JUST MY THEORY----
i do not have good internet references but i am sure someone with access to that kind of research could forward some to you. maybe you could keep track of your own lines and partition out the cancers to see what the percentages are. ( I HAVE DONE ALL THAT-- IT IS POSTED ON THE WALL OF THE GUEST HOUSE)
i'm sure an epidemiological study, no matter how un scientific, would be valuable. ( MY OPINION IS UNSCIENTIFIC STUDIES JUST SCREW UP THE GENERAL PUBLIC)
THERE IS AN OPINION FLOATING THAT THE PIEBALD PATTERN CARRIES A HIGH RISK OF BOWEL CANCER.
I HAVE READ ALL THIS BEFORE-- AND AM VERY FAMILIAR WITH THE TOPIC
MY DOGS HAVE BEEN STUDIED COLOR WISE/HEALTH WISE
AND JUST SO THE GENERIC DANE POPULATION CAN NOT CRITICIZE WHATEVER I DO, I AM THE ONLY ONE BREEDING MY LINE OF DOGS----BECASUE MINE ARE SPAYED IF THEY LEAVE... WHICH IS ABSOLUTE... PASSING OF LIMITED ACCESS PAPERS WITH A BREEDABLE DOG DOES NOTHING TO STOP SOMEONE WANTING TO BREED THE DOG. PAPERS WANDER AROUND.
I REALLY DON'T HAVE TIME - BUT I CAN GIVE YOU A FEW THINGS TO CONSIDER..
I HAVE THIS PIEBALD GENE IN " MY "LINE--- CAME THRU THE BMW KENNEL DOGS..
BAILEY- IS TECHNICALLY A PIEBALD....SAME BLACK PATTERN AS WALTER---HEAD TAIL ROOT.--- AGE 11 AND RELATED TO AOT OF THE OTHERS ONE WAY OR ANOTHER... MANY ARE TECHNICALLY PIEBALDS..
OUT OF ABOUT 300 DOGS I MAYBE LOST TRACK OF 6---- THE REST... I KNOW. WE HAVE HAD ONE GASTRIC TUMOR- A WELL MARKED HARL SERVICE DOG BORN IN 2005 FROM HARL HARL PARENTS .
THAT IS NOT THEORY... I KNOW THOSE DOGS-- EACH ONE. AND JULIET DEMOS THE COLOR OF DOGS IN OUR FAMILY TREE ( ALSO IN THE GUEST HOUSE.)
I DO NOT SEE NUMBERS IN MY RESULTS TO SUBSTANCIATE MANY OF THE RUMORS SURROUNDING COLOR AND HEALTH. UNLESS YOU BREED BLACK TO BLACK THERE IS SOME % OF WHITE- AND OF THOSE SOME DEAF... IT IS POSSIBEL TO BREED HARL TO HARL AND GET ALL HARL PUPS-- BUT THAT IS NOT VERY LIKELY EITHER...
I AM NOT SAYING THESE VARIOUS STUDIES ARE WRONG-- I AM SAYING I DO NOT THINK THE SCIENCE IS SUFFICIENT YET TO BE ABLE TO PROVE ANYTHING.
I DO KNOW THAT MY 3 MERLES THAT A TYPICAL AKC BREEDER WOULD CALL " BUCKET PUPPIES" TO BE DROWNED IN WARM WATER-- WERE SUPER SERVICE DOGS WORKING FOR 9, 10 ,11 YEARS.
PLUs---- 2 SUPER MERLES I KEPT --- BROWNIE AND PURPLE--- LIVED TO A RIPE OLD AGE OF 10. SUPER DOGS EACH ONE.
HOWEVER ONE SERVICE DOG AND BROWNIE BOTH DEVEOPED BONE CANCER IN THE RIGHT FRONT LEG... NO HARL OR BLACK OUT OF THE 300 DOGS HAD RIGHT FRONT LEG BONE CANCER.
AH--- 40% OF MERLES IN THIS TEST DEVELOPED BONE CANCER...!!!! right :(
YOU TELL ME WHAT YOU WANT TO PROVE AND I WILL DREAM UP THE STATISTICS TO PROVE IT...
THAT IS THE FIRST THING YOU LEARN IN STATISTICS 101-
BREEDING ANYTHING IS A CRAP SHOOT--- PEOPLE INCLUDED.
BAILEY AND WALTER BOTH HAVE SKIN ISSUES--
I AM A FAIR HEADED RED-HEAD WITH SKIN ISSUES... make that i was a red head...
WHERE DO YOU START AND STOP????
walter's ORCAS LOOK LIKE SUPER WORKING DOGS- WE NEED MORE OF THOSE
BARRING THE UNFORESEEN--- IT WILL BE WALTER
SPARE ME THE 20- 20 HINDSIGHT.
SCARLOT ( WALTERS SISTER)---HAS 8 POTENTIAL SERV DOG PUPS AND 3 WHITE PETS--- I AM NOT THRILLED WITH THE 3 WHITES BUT THEY HAVE GOoD HOMES AND WE HAVE 8 POSSIBLES THAT LOOK VERY STRONG/STURDY..
got to go for it----( making list for fabulous failures just in case -- contact ann( maybe ann.nadeau@verizon.net, )
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in the meantime--- the calendar progresseth- and should be ready to mail about thanksgiving
barring the unforeseen-- it iwll be $20 each and $5 to mail any number from 1 to 8
don't forget we still have janine's book in the doggie bag off the web - which is a s funny as it was the day she wrote it.- another good xmas present.--
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we need to redo our web-- it is not easy to get around-- but there is some nice omnkey fist silver jewery of betsy's and we still have some earlene bottled puppy breath- for those who have everything.
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yesterday's visiter was dida hagan-- a fluffie haired friend from the days of 23 puppies..- and i learned she winters in..... vero beach..
.( my #1 fluffie haired friend's home away from home)
what is with this vero beach stuff?-- only time i ever heard of it before was how it gets blown away on alternate years by the various hurricanes...
if you google dida's acting credentials-- note a SAG member---- she can whistle thru her fingers and make a really big noise-
we all have to be famous for something.
